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  Moscow Rule on JW Ban for this Wednesday

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [...] moscow city prosecutors have been trying to shut down the church for nearly six years, charging that the witnesses are subversive foreign cultists intent on breaking up russian families, endangering children and inciting religious discord.

  a ruling on a final appeal of the case is due wednesday [...]

  http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8921517.htm?1c

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  johnny cip

  pete if the u.s would have finished off the wt in 1918 like the gov't did to a lot of wacky org's at the time . we would not be here today talking about it today, would we. the gov't s are the ministers of god's law . for get the verse> what civil liberties does a jw have in the borg? come on they have none X 1000 . tell that to some jw that took it in the ass for 3 years because his wt conscience preventing him from mopping floors at the hospital. you think the jw's even if not banned are going to have it good in russia . when it's time to worship the wt or the superior law of the land. .. give me a break. it just don't work that way . ban them now and let each person make up their own mind . not the wt making up their mind for them. john
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  Are we too hard on INDIVIDUAL JW's?

  by outbutnotdown in

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  i am definitely no longer a jw (11 years).

  that having been said, living in a "democratic" land, the one thing that is challenging is agreeing with freedom of religion, but also protesting when it becomes offensive.

  don't get me wrong..... my family shuns me completely and i do think that it is "offensive", and against the laws of nature, which makes the point even more legitimate...... : do they really know what they are doing?

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  johnny cip

  OUTBUTNOT DOWN you did a fine job with the jw's, my mom and grandma cursed the jw's day and night ever since the day dad started studing 35 years ago. and are still doing it. nonstop!!!!!!!!!! you want to here the result. my dad has never got one family member to become a jw' none of his 5 kids or any of his 12 grandchildren. and mom is no bible student she and grandma knew the jw's were telling them 60 years ago the world was going to end then. a good offfence is sometimes the best defence. my dad thought he was some kind of bible scholar till about 5 yrs ago till i started testing the wt. in less than a few months i had him and all his jw buddies bouncing off the walls. you do what works for you. i go out and talk to a few dozen jw's a week some are open and we have good talks while i'm planting all kinds of seeds of thought. others are total wt zombies and get blasted. the only thing that may make them go home and think. nice or rude i will never let a jw get the upper hand. john
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  Moscow Rule on JW Ban for this Wednesday

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [...] moscow city prosecutors have been trying to shut down the church for nearly six years, charging that the witnesses are subversive foreign cultists intent on breaking up russian families, endangering children and inciting religious discord.

  a ruling on a final appeal of the case is due wednesday [...]

  http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8921517.htm?1c

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  johnny cip

  joker maybe you would like a one way plane ticket to moscow. we can start taking up a collect here. and get you a few cases of wt's in russian to stand infront of red square. i'm sure we get get enough $$ for that plane ticket in a few hours. then about a year from now they may put your picture on an awack mag. about the JOKER that got 30 years hard labor in siberia. for following jehovah (wtbts) be a man and join your russian jw's in that spritual paradise . the GOLUGE.
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  Moscow Rule on JW Ban for this Wednesday

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [...] moscow city prosecutors have been trying to shut down the church for nearly six years, charging that the witnesses are subversive foreign cultists intent on breaking up russian families, endangering children and inciting religious discord.

  a ruling on a final appeal of the case is due wednesday [...]

  http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8921517.htm?1c

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  johnny cip

  what really gets me is . alot of posters cry they hate the wt, mind control, shunning , waste of life serving the wt, they didn't get the right education , and every thing else the wt helped screw up in their lives family etc. then come back and say the wt shouldn't be banned when some country bounces the wts. when i fact the russians have just saved millions from this destructive cult. god bless the russian court. john
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  Moscow's final ban on Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Joker10 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  moscow upholds ban on jehovah's witnesses

  by maria danilova.

  associated press writer leader of russian jehovah's witnesses, vasily kalin, right, jehovah's witnesses' canadian lawyer john burns, center, and spokesman for the jehovah's witnesses christian presber, stand in front of the moscow city court, wednesday, june 16, 2004. a moscow court upheld a ban on the city's jehovah's witnesses, ending a six-year case that reflected growing pressure to stifle minority religious groups in russia, where orthodox christianity is predominant.

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  think about it the jw's were banned in russia till about 1993 . i'm sure before that date there was less than 130,000 jw's in russia. in less than 10 yrs i'm sure they incresed 10x fold. (someone look it up) if the wt would have had free reign in russia since ww2 their would be at least 1 million jw's in russia. the russian know about mind control ie stalin, lenin, etc it could even be the other way around that the europeans are letting the russians do thier dirty work to slowly ban the wts. ie france, italy, germany, etc the cat is out of the bag on the wtbts. guess the wt is going to have to go back to the united nations, and lick some more ass. please mr. wild beast with 10 heads let me ride again and be one of your harlots we're being persecuted by babylon and can't finish the preaching work so jehovah will destroy you. plus we're losing souls ( i mean $$$$$$$$) how about 5% mr. wild beast on all publications sales in any new nation you open up for us. mr beast forget saddams weapon of mass death , how about some rand cam stock. etc...
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  Moscow Rule on JW Ban for this Wednesday

  by Gerard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [...] moscow city prosecutors have been trying to shut down the church for nearly six years, charging that the witnesses are subversive foreign cultists intent on breaking up russian families, endangering children and inciting religious discord.

  a ruling on a final appeal of the case is due wednesday [...]

  http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8921517.htm?1c

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  johnny cip

  it seems the russians being under mind control for 80 years can see right tho the wts. hope they ban the craptower , and show other liberal counties how to do it... who said the russians are backwards? john
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  Well, I had 'the talk'....

  by TallTexan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been wondering how to approach my family w/ my true feelings re: the jw's.

  conveniently, my mother gave me an opening last night and i went for it.

  i spent nearly four hours 'getting through' to her and was blown away, b/c she actually agreed w/ me.

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  good work tall texan ; just remember when mom goes to her jw friends with whatever info she agreed with today. she may came back with the new light , we made mistakes, who is doing the preaching work? etc excuses. she may dig her heals in . they may even tell her not to talk to you! it's in your moms hands if she is ready. just be ready for any wt theocratic warfare they may tho at you. thats when you have to dig your heels in , and don't let them try to bullcrap you. with mom it may be one thing but with other jw's don't show them an ounce of respect and if mom sees you expose some elders , it could just what she needs to see it's no quarter .imo. good luck john
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  Elders Meeting

  by New Castles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  allright let me tell you what happened yesterday.

  i went to the meeting yesterday because my cousin was visiting and wanted to know where the kh was located.

  i finally offered to go with her to avoid any issues.

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  johnny cip

  i like tall texan ,95 storms, and danny's tactics. and if your ready blow them right out of the box. a no holds barred free for all. if not for personnal reasons,and you need to be low key , cancel tell them you will be coming around to the hall when you have time! and if you need their help you will call them right away. and let them know you have been studing. (just don't tell them what) . either way you can hold your own and gain respect at the same time. you will be fine. just stand tall.... best wishes john
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  Bankcard-terminal in district assembly hall for donation WTS

  by Ozner in

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  2. friends

  dear friends,.

  as i posted in an other category on this board http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/73036/1.ashx the wts has installed a bankcard/creditcard-terminal in their district assembly halls in the netherlands.

  i want to know your opinion about this.

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  johnny cip

  just call my dad about the new credit card donations. he said that was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then i told him that in some recent wt's ,they were calling other churches that are now using the credit card donations wrong for doing so . and i'd look it up if he wanted.he paniced no no don't look it up... so i called him a hypocrite. and having a double standard. he know he was set up like bowling pins. and i just bowled a strike. so he did what all wt zombies do when busted ... he hung up the phone. john
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  Just had another Co visit

  by codeblue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  omg..........i am so nervous.... they only came cause 6 months ago, nodenial brought up a series of questions and the co asked if he could come back with the tattling brother (pm me if ya want to know about the tattling brother).

  i came down about 5 minutes after primping........just got outta the shower, and got ready...almost came down "braless"...but my modesty wouldn't allow me (lol).

  i looked at the co and said: you know the last time you visited, nobody ever introduced you to me......i knew you were the co but that's it"..(i said that because i wanted them to know i felt invisible).

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  sorry codeblue if someone treated me like that in my own house, they would be scraping thier raws asses off the pavement of the drive way. and told to never come back , till they learn some common manners. i don't know your whole story. but you keep your head up . and show these fools no quarter. it seems till you get out the baseball bat or the shotgun, or dial 911 they can't understand you don't want to be harrassed no longer. you have to do whatever it takes to get them off your back. by the way don't try any if this with jw's unless your serious.. john